What I mean is that negative memory reported by Windows is not responsible for the crash in all OS for high orders

On August 12, 2015 6:02:52 PM CEST, Johannes Pfeifer <jpfeifer@gmx.de> wrote:
It's the same mod-file, Approx_10.mod, just used in the two programs with order=3. As far as I understood, they rely on the same underlying routines.

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OK, but this is a problem different from the one encountered with Approx_10.mod

Johannes Pfeifer writes:

Dynare++ always diagnoses 0 memory and k_order_pert.mexw64 in Dynare unstable always negative memory.



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Are you saying that under Windows, dynare++ always diagnoses negative memory?

Johannes Pfeifer writes:

Sébastien also indicated some time ago that this message "just"
triggers a different algorithm. But this is still a very undesirable
behavior. I get this exact same message in the jnl file that is
created when I use this mod-file with Dynare under Matlab at order 3
with the k_order_pert.mex64. In this case, at order=3 memory should
not be an issue. But the mex-file diagnoses negative memory and
immediately switches to the different algorithm from the start.

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Looking again the the journal, I believe now that the message "run
out of memory" is not an error message but an information that
triggers a change in the trade-off between speed and memory (i.e.
decreasing number of the
threads)

I don't think that dynare++ catches memory allocation failure and
just crashes at that point.




Michel Juillard writes:

Johannes,

do you know for which order this example is working on your machine
and for which order it doesn't?

When it is working does the jnl make sense?

It may be that 8GB is not enough to even store the derivatives of
the model before starting computations but that for some reason the
program doesn't crash until much later.

Best

Michel

Johannes Pfeifer writes:

Hi Michel,



I ran dynare++ on the mentioned mod-file again under Windows++ and
used the system monitoring tools for monitoring memory usage. The
picture is attached. The blue line shows the percent of memory used
of my 8GB RAM on my Laptop from the start until the crash. As you
can see, there is not much movement. I do not get anywhere close to
the 8GB of memory used for the task that you report for Linux.
Rather, straight from the beginning the jnl-file reports 0
available memory and "out of memory". It simply seems as if
Dynare++ is hardly using any memory straight from the start. This
Dynare++ does not
seem to be just a problem of measuring memory usage on Windows.



Best,



Johannes



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